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I have been experiencing and learning this form of magic for about 4 years now. I am certainly no expert on it. However, from this experience I know that control of the elements is not possible. You can work with them within their own forms and one can manage various feats with them, but to control I believe is an out of place phrase and mindset Beause I tried it that way and failed. And by falied I mean I was in pain for two days afterward Understand though this only my opinion offered as what it is with great respect to the original starter of this group. I will not detract from your knowledge, but I offer my knowledge if wanted if it is not wanted then I will not say anymore. Resectfully,
ShadowWolf

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control of anything is impossible, instead what you can gain is some measure of influence

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I was going to say we can only have control over ourselves.
But can we truly control ourselves, or do our minds simply have some measure of influence over our bodies?

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I teach control because it is easiest to understand, what you need to control in order to achieve mastery of the elements is that of self-control, you must not let the power get to you, you must also learn control of your mind and body before you will ever make progress in elemental magic.

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That is true. I apologize for my statment. I suppose my talents in this regard manifest differently. So I again apologise for my statment. I am so used to people talking about control in a far different meaning than the one you use. I had forgotten what that word really meant in this context.

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I guess its just a matter of terms. I know what you mean about control. We need to exert as much self-control as possible in order to master our minds and bodies. Also, we can only control ourselves, and cannot hope to control another. If you try it always ends bad for both parties. We must let everyone be themselves, and try to let our own self be who it wants to be. How do you define elemental magic?

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If one could completely control ones perceptions, then you could walk through fire, but your mind would tell your body that you were sitting outside on a chilly day. There is some debate as to whether we can fully control ourselves, or whether there is always an ineffable element that eludes the power of our mind to conquer itself

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there is only so far that we can push our control but i suppose that one who has learned full control they could tell their body that there is no pain and nothing is happening when they walk through fire, that would be the ultimate control

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In my learning I have found it appropriate to bond my self to the elements...{to be come a brother if you will}. and this take a lot of time and patience in proveing to the elements that you are worthy...
I doing so the elements will aid you when needed without any need to try to control them...
Tho some elements are much less trust worthy and much more difficult to earn their trust and must be shown proper respects at all times.
I myself have been following this path off and on for nearly 17 years and am bonded to the Earth,Wind,Water,Fire{In its Lightning form} and Ether.
But I can not say it has been any easy thing to learn...
But if I may venture a suggestion...The Earth is the best teacher with with to begin...
I my experiance at least.
Good luck in your Journey.

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